Jodeci – Freek’n You (1995)

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1. dragonchaser says:
   #1 2009-05-05 20:29 (Reply)

   i am still wondering why?

2. poacher says:
   #1.1 2009-05-05 20:32 (Reply)

   You read the nuum piece? That erm, explains it.

3. dragonchaser says:
   #1.1.1 2009-05-05 22:23 (Reply)

   i have trouble understanding

4. poacher says:
   #1.1.1.1 2009-05-06 09:27 (Reply)

   Aint that the truth.

5. whispering dave says:
   #2 2009-05-05 20:59 (Reply)

   This Joedeci track started playing in my head during Goodman and Eshun's mapping of cosmic sleaze. It appears to carry the key elements of that signature, yet as poacher pointed out to me you could also desribe it as a "simulacrum of lust".
   I enjoyed that phrase. It is useful because it not only taps into the ludic (you could say daft) hypermasculinity on display here (which I think is part of the songs appeal). But the notion of simularcum (despite the problems I have with some aspects of simulacrum theoretically) also explains how Jodeci have taken a throb and flattened it out into a thud. In fact the issue of flattening out really interests me. It is something you can hear throughout mid 90s RnB. I mentioned RKelly, but you also have Blackstreet, Brandy and Monica.
   
   I used to get alot of stick for listening to this stuff when it first made its way over here, but I think there is something worth paying attention to. Of course at first it was a case of simpy blaring this out on the biggest available soundsystem I could get hold of, but now thinking back on it that flattening of the beat, even a flattening of the voice is fascinating. There is a simlarity to the way in which UK garage was given flak for its apparent cheesiness. Yet that 2step is making a ressurgance through Uk funky, so clearly people are being turned on by something in that sound.

6. whispering dave says:
   #3 2009-05-06 09:47 (Reply)

   Heh heh. Are you two ganging up on me?
   
   If you could elaborate then I might be able to go into more detail. Then again, that might lead to further confusion.

7. Anonymous says:
   #3.1 2009-05-06 13:14 (Reply)

   poacher is merely confirming my difficulties in understanding - i am a bit thick sometimes - but not always - but i may have some points to raise with this notion some time soon

8. poacher says:
   #4 2009-05-06 17:10 (Reply)

   Aye, I was merely confirming that chaser has trouble understanding!
   
   I do find it sonically interesting for sure - and I like the idea of the flattening effect. But for me the flattening is everything - this is pure performance and no content, which of course is a large part of what pop music actually is I'll admite.
   
   What puts me off is precisely the ludicrousness of it all - it's played as deeply serious (using a bunch of received soul tropes) but despite all that awful ersatz emotional clout it's just a simulation, it's just a bunch of blokes waving their knobs about. Which again is probably the point...

9. dragonchaser says:
   #4.1 2009-05-06 20:58 (Reply)

   It is shit. Awful shit. Really bad.
   
   Whispering Dave... please clarify this bit..
   
   explains how Jodeci have taken a throb and flattened it out into a thud

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